.Andrei Pivovarov was one of the 16 captives devoid of Russia in recently's primary detainee exchange in between Moscow as well as the West.The noticeable opposition protestor, 42, was carried out a Warsaw-bound aircraft through Russian safety and security solutions in 2021 after the pro-democracy group Open Russia, which he moved, was actually prohibited as " unfavorable." He was actually sentenced to four years behind bars in 2022 for his collaborate with the group.The Moscow Moments talked with Pivovarov about the swap and also his think about the future:.MT: Exactly how did you experience when you were actually being actually required to the flight terminal? Did you recognize that it was actually a swap?AP: By the time our team reached the airport, it was actually actually crystal clear that we were being needed to a substitution, however we failed to recognize where.I reckon I fully understood the extremely simple fact of what was actually happening when I was being extracted from the colony on Saturday early morning. It was actually the 25th [of July] I recognized that one thing phenomenal was actually happening because I was actually grabbed by the scalp of the colony as well as he personally helped me carry my points. Yet there were no specifics.You have a tendency to presume the worst in any type of unclear condition. I possessed all form of thoughts. Yet there was actually an instant when I was sent-- I had to sign for a completely dry assignment. And also I observe a name on the previous line: Alexandra Skochilenko. As well as I ensure that if Sasha and I are together, it is actually hardly a poor account.I presumed that it would certainly resemble in the motion pictures-- an arena where we are absolved by the tsar and also launched facing the RT electronic cameras. The 2nd option was a variation of the theorists' airplane, which sadly became even more genuine in life.Yet whatever was covered till the exact side. When our experts were actually brought to Lefortovo [Penitentiary, just before the exchange], our team were in solitude and also might certainly not consult with any individual.On Thursday morning they delivered us a launch certification with no order variety, nothing at all. Our company possessed half a hr to pack, we carried our things.There were actually people in hides and outfits along with our team. If any one of our team avoided and also rejected to be deported, their job was actually to put our team on the plane whatsoever. They clearly informed our company that afterward.The very first person I observed on the bus was actually [Ilya] Yashin. It was actually undoubtedly great to observe him. There knew and also unknown faces afterwards, but individually, I was actually really troubled whether Volodya Kara-Murza would certainly exist. He was among the last to become produced, which was a massive alleviation, since he possesses the longest sentence.Do you know who lobbied for your addition in the checklist?Just how the listings were developed is actually a mystery to me. I have not been able to speak with all my coworkers however. Coming from my understanding, there were actually different teams from which information was collected and also the last listing was considerably larger than what you have viewed. And also it was shortened by Russia. When all the desires were actually gathered and also corresponded as well as type of set, far fewer folks were ultimately launched.You were actually meant to be launched in a month ...This is one of the absolute most difficult points for me. If you check out my criminal case, the time period that I had actually left [to serve] can easily not be actually reviewed to the relations to the others [political prisoners]I can easily mention that I know coming from many resources that the probability of my release [at the end of my paragraph] was actually certainly not assured. That's why I ended up on the listing. Our experts've viewed instances where individuals were actually arrested on their exit of the nest considering that some new criminal cases were opened. And also sadly, there were telephone calls that pointed out that in my instance, the outcome may not be actually the most effective.What are your programs right now? Do you recognize what you will carry out in the near future?I am actually right now an individual without any documentations and also no feeling of home. I was actually provided a Russian interior key and I possess two documents-- one replaces my [international ticket] and the second changes my visa. As it was actually discussed to me, these papers allow me to keep in Germany for 15 days-- primarily in Germany, certainly not in the EU. It's tough to bring in major strategies. So initially, of course, I want to deal with the domestic aspects.And then-- I have been actually performing social and also political work with 15-20 years. My stay in jail did not repel me from it, however on the other hand inspired me much more. I have some concepts, as I had opportunity to believe as well as ponder [behind bars]As well as the major target right here, perhaps, is to make an effort to speak a lot more along with those that stayed inside [Russia] To try to deliver a strategy to partner with those that might not be our supporters, yet that are actually irritated along with what is occurring. If our experts can provide [folks in Russia] the opportunity to express themselves without putting themselves at significant risk, I think that's what an autonomous force ought to carry out.